Be aware of fake NTTs from Singapore

[hexaChord]

I monitor NTTs on eBay for about two years now and there\'s much too many NTTs from Singapore the last few months. It\'s from different accounts, but the most recent auction here is from one who already sold a copy before:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270397499373

There\'s already two threads in the WhiteWash section of .TK, but I think losing about 300 bucks on a fake copy from Asia is reason enough to make a thread here as well.

http://bucketheadland.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=whitewash&action=display&thread=17209

http://bucketheadland.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=whitewash&action=display&thread=18505

So it looks like they have lots of copies and contact other bidders to disguise some deals. And they have time. There are large gaps between auctions, but not large enough if you try to monitor EVERY auction. The thing that makes me wonder most, is that they\'re only acting on eBay - at least I didn\'t see anything at other portals (e.g. Discogs).

If you have any further evidence, share it!

[hexaChord]

Still more than 200 bucks - I don\'t get it...  

[Boxenstien]

Hmm.... I was watching that for a bit. It was stuck at 17 bids for a while. Maybe some of the bidders saw this thread but one decided to take the risk and buy it at the last minute. Either way this is bad

[pigebear]

I purchased my 2 copies from ebay. How do I tell if they are Fake? Is there a way or are they really good copies

[hexaChord]

What text/number is printed next to the hole of the CD?

[pigebear]

"RB03874NTT96-2 RAINBO" is on the first 1
"RB03874NTT96-2 RAINBO" is on the 2nd but written backwards   Something is wierd ,
  Does this mean anything?
They are both factory pressed, not cd-r .

[Jordanatron]

Mine is backwards also USA bought

[pigebear]

I would like to know how many people out ther  have this in thier collection? They say that there was Only 500 of these made! It would be cool if we could register our copies someway

[skidz]

Mine is backwards also USA bought

Ditto  

[hexaChord]

"RB03874NTT96-2 RAINBO" is on the first 1
"RB03874NTT96-2 RAINBO" is on the 2nd but written backwards

From where are you looking? Orange or silver side?

[Jordanatron]

I know I was looking through to it, and the stamp was on the orange side, it was stamped first. They could\'ve very well been moved to next process and been turned. just an idea and hoping it\'s true.

[hexaChord]

I\'d say this is another fake:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330344678894

Item description is almost identical to earlier ones from Singapore.

[Duckhead]

I bought my copy in 04 or 05 from a guy who claimed to be the original owner. I have also bought other rare BH items from this US seller, and I am 99% sure my copy is legit. It also has the numbers written backwards on the inner circle of the silver side.

Does anyone own one of these NTT\'s from Singapore that we can go all CSI on? I hate to accuse they guy of being a fraud without any proof. I admit it is weird that the seller has so many but he does have 100% feedback and no complaints, if it is a fake it must be high quality or someone who bought one in the past would have complained I think.

[hexaChord]

Maybe Travis can help us on this?

[Jordanatron]

 As I recall Travis saying awile back, he guessed there were about a thousand made, again i\'m sure the only one\'s that know are the one\'s involved. also "NTT records" i\'m sure is an Asian company anyway. AND where Big B has played often back in the day i\'m not sure how much but back in 1996 i can\'t imagine the amount of fan\'s he had there. I\'m not trying to back the seller BUT why wouldn\'t there be many copies. And i\'m sure there could be fakes but without one or proof it\'s just all for not.

Also Hexacord do you own one?  if not i suggest you buy one and end your suffering