Blame it on the Bucket

Started by twIXta, March 30, 2004, 07:10:22 AM

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twIXta

GUNS N\' ROSES have officially cancelled their appearance at Rock In Rio – Lisbon, citing guitarist Buckethead\'s recent departure from the group as the cause of the cancellation. Frontman Axl Rose\'s official statement on the matter is as follows:

"The band has been put in an untenable position by guitarist Buckethead and his untimely departure.

"During his tenure with the band, Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment — despite being under contract — creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever.

"Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in GUNS and how impressed he was with everyone\'s performance. Then, in February we got word from Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in GUNS!? Apparently, according to Bucket he had been \'gone\' but had turned himself around and was really excited to do Rio-Lisbon and a European tour. Somewhere in the following month things changed once again. According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead, it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him, quit GN\'R and to use his involvement in the upcoming GUNS release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy!

"There is not a member of this camp that is not hurt, upset and ultimately disappointed by this event, and more to the point — if not this individual, certainly this individual\'s choices. Regardless of anyone\'s opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve, clearly the fans, individuals in this band, management, crew and our support group do not deserve this type of treatment. We as a whole, definitely feel that we afforded Bucket every accommodation perhaps so much so that it may be that we or more precisely, I may have done GUNS a disservice and unintentionally allowed GUNS to be put in this position.

"On behalf of GUNS N\' ROSES and myself I apologize to the fans who planned to see us at Rock In Rio - Lisbon. The festival and its tradition mean a lot to me personally and I sincerely do not enjoy being robbed by one of our own of the opportunity to be the first artist to play it for the third time. I would also like to express my gratitude to those who chose to embrace Buckethead\'s role in GUNS and support our new line up. We greatly appreciate Bucket\'s contributions and remain open to \'discussions\' as there are obviously several issues to resolve. In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, GUNS will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months."

Caligula13

for me, this is really hard to read, because i like the idea of BH being in GNR and after this statement i see no future for my hope. i don\'t believe Axl. i want to hear BH\'s side of the story. and not just his manager. it is hard to believe that BH would act like an asshole, use GNR for his popularity.
travis, you know BH. BH is not that type of a person. am i right?

twIXta

Well, to me it\'s the word of a singer with a rep of being an arse against a person about whom I only have heard people saying how schweet a guy he is.

If Big B is the type to commit to a band is a different story, I have always doubted if he was cut out for that type of commitment.

To blame the cancellation of these tourdates on Bucket stinks big time, because this isn\'t the first time a GnR concert is cancelled.

Caligula13

that\'s why i don\'t believe Axl. it\'s never his fault.
but if it is true that BH used GNR, acted like an $$$hole, then i don\'t know what to think about him. he never seemed to be that kind of a person...

doomride

This guy doesn\'t make any statements for months and then this is the first thing out of his mouth...something fishy going on here....wonder how official that statement is,exactly.....

Caligula13

it seems to be really a statement from Axl Rose. it is also posted on the Rock in Rio site. it would be great to be a fake statement but...you know....GNR without BH is like Sex without a chick....

twIXta

Than I prefer the chick without the sex I guess..  ;)

Caligula13

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i need both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :\'(

Caligula13

Dizzy Reed\'s wife posted this on their board:


"hey spider that is not bs!! he was only in it to get a larger and more lucrative contract with sanctuary. he even said that he didn\'t care about guns any more because he had the new deal. Like i said before when I could not elaborate. he is an ass..."

wow, man, wow. some crazy shit happening here

Megan

wow.  That press release smells like libel to me.  It has all the trappings:  language clearly about bh communicated publically based on specific facts that tend to adversely affect bh\'s reputation.  Now just stating an opinion is not libel.  But here there are all kinds of factual scenarios being used.  And Dizzy Reed\'s wife is just making it worse by publically repeating something she probably heard someone else say they heard bh say.  So if any of those factual scenarios are stretched or outright lies, then GnR is vulnerable.  It sure looks to me like GnR is trying to shift the blame around that cancellation of that concert to Buckethead.  Maybe there are big penalties involved, maybe the risk of a libel suit is small potatoes in comparison.  yikes
Megan esq.
some are born to sweet delight
some are born to endless night

me_again

Where are you Travis? You know BH .... what are your thoughts? Or is this such a BS news release that it should just be ignored? As in "consider the source"

Caligula13

Caligula13

Quotewow.  That press release smells like libel to me.  It has all the trappings:  language clearly about bh communicated publically based on specific facts that tend to adversely affect bh\'s reputation.  Now just stating an opinion is not libel.  But here there are all kinds of factual scenarios being used.  And Dizzy Reed\'s wife is just making it worse by publically repeating something she probably heard someone else say they heard bh say.  So if any of those factual scenarios are stretched or outright lies, then GnR is vulnerable.  It sure looks to me like GnR is trying to shift the blame around that cancellation of that concert to Buckethead.  Maybe there are big penalties involved, maybe the risk of a libel suit is small potatoes in comparison.  yikes
Megan esq.

i had the same thoughts. it really kills me

Travis

I\'m here, you folks don\'t really need me to chime in here do you? You all seem to have a pretty good grasp of the situation, if it\'s real and I have no way to know that it is. I don\'t want to say anything more at the moment cause I don\'t speak for Buckethead and he doesn\'t need me to, this isn\'t very hard to figure out. I\'ll say more if the need arises.