Travis Dickerson Recording Studios Forum

Thanks for your help man. I paid a bit for these CD's  in a vain attempt to try and complete my Buckethead collection one day. so wanted to be 100% sure that I did in fact not pay for knock offs.
It turns out the guy I purchased them off has feedback on Bill Mosely's ebay account from 2003. So unless he is a master forger (JK) I am sure that I have got the genuine article. He also  has a personally signed picture that Bill signed when he bought these, so it must be the case that Bill at some time did this instead of personalising the discs.

thanks for your answer. :-)
The autographs look authentic to me, but I heard that each title had been numbered and also had the persons name that purchased them written by BM on the CD's which these don't.
I guess BM must have used many different brands of CD-R also.

you might want to check what these are selling for used on Amazon  before asking those prices.
Good luck.

Does anyone here own them and if they do, do these look legitimate?
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Quote from: davo on February 23, 2013, 09:06:24 PM
There's more profit for OOP titles. If there is a market for people like yourself to pay $30 odd dollars for a CD which costs them less than a dollar to make then it's easy money.
I complained about a CD being pirated by one of these Ebay sellers and he shut down most of my auctions from his numerous accounts reporting to Ebay that I was selling fakes. I didnot sell on that account for a year fearing it would be suspended.
These people are ruthless.
It's kind of good for collectors like myself when things get counterfeited because it makes it cheaper for me to buy the genuine article. Some sellers have no idea an item is counterfeited so if they see one selling at a low price sometimes they will sell it for that or cheaper :-)
On the other hand, it can be pretty disappointing to receive a fake item. That's why I try to do my research.

One of the problems with some martrix codes from smaller companies is that the codes are easy to replicate whereas the more professional matrixes say like on a Japanese CD are usually more difficult to get right. Dull artwork is always something that makes me suspicious. If you want to avoid fakes, try to stay away from UK sellers selling big amounts of new CD's at very cheap prices. Also your majority of Eastern European (ex Soviet countries) sellers who sell new are selling fakes.

There's more profit for OOP titles. If there is a market for people like yourself to pay $30 odd dollars for a CD which costs them less than a dollar to make then it's easy money.
I complained about a CD being pirated by one of these Ebay sellers and he shut down most of my auctions from his numerous accounts reporting to Ebay that I was selling fakes. I didnot sell on that account for a year fearing it would be suspended.
These people are ruthless.
It's kind of good for collectors like myself when things get counterfeited because it makes it cheaper for me to buy the genuine article. Some sellers have no idea an item is counterfeited so if they see one selling at a low price sometimes they will sell it for that or cheaper :-)
On the other hand, it can be pretty disappointing to receive a fake item. That's why I try to do my research.

what i dont get is how does the counterfieter get the matrix and ifpi exact down to a tee yet screws up the printing?
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Because a photocopy is never going to have the quality of the original. Still it's good enough to fool most people as you can see from the feedback and mass sales of these sellers.

Quote from: MuldeR on February 21, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
Well, Travis already said that there were different variants, because it got pressed twice. So if this one differs from your copy, that does not yet prove it is a "fake".

Anyway, even if it was a "fake", why make a fuss?

Don't shoot the messenger.
As a collector it's important to me to have the real thing and I am just letting others here know so they are informed before paying good money for a fake.
I am glad you enjoy your copy, but unfortunately neither Buckethead or Travis made a cent from your CD even though it is their work.
On top of that the CD has funded organised criminals who probably commit crimes much worse than pirating.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+CD+MAFIA%3B+Music+pirates+flood+UK+with+pounds+5+discs.-a060957783

Quote from: MuldeR on July 05, 2012, 05:54:14 PM
Just in case anybody is interested, here are some pics of the CD that I bought from "rare_music_corner" on Amazon recently:

This copy is fake, the artwork is dull, the genuine copy doesn't have the ring on the label side near the center hole. Also the matrix area on the genuine copy is darker on the silver side.
Anyone who bought theirs from TDRS will see that theirs will be different to this if they look closely. I sent Travis emails about these Amazon fakes but unfortunately he thought I was wrong. Maybe now, he will believe me.
Genuine Pressing pics are below