it says it a new pikes but i do not see it on the site. Sounds Fake to me!
here is what it said
Balloon Cement
latest pike to be included into buckethead's ever growing
collection. 12 tracks of insane turbo thrashing spiral bending insanity!
heres the tracklist...
1. Balloon Cement
2. Red Water Colors
3. Transport Void
4. Thistle Museum
5. Alligator Eye Viewer
6. Veil of Tinfoil
7. Chestplate
8. Vast Mound
9. Replacement Nail
10. Shatter Shell
11. Bridge to Borg
12. Evaporate
It was released on Itunes last week. I bought all the tracks and uploaded them to Youtube, too. I also sent the Pikes site an email about a physical release, and they told me that it will be released sometime next month.
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 25, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
It was released on Itunes last week. I bought all the tracks and uploaded them to Youtube, too. I also sent the Pikes site an email about a physical release, and they told me that it will be released sometime next month.
You put them ALL on YouTube? *face palm* jeez...
You better donate a buck for every five views you get because 1 in 5 people will download it with a "YouTube downloader" for free and then the music will end up on a torrent site because of you. I think putting a sample up would have been cool, but the whole song? No....
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 25, 2012, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 25, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
It was released on Itunes last week. I bought all the tracks and uploaded them to Youtube, too. I also sent the Pikes site an email about a physical release, and they told me that it will be released sometime next month.
You put them ALL on YouTube? *face palm* jeez...
You better donate a buck for every five views you get because 1 in 5 people will download it with a "YouTube downloader" for free and then the music will end up on a torrent site because of you. I think putting a sample up would have been cool, but the whole song? No....
What this guy said. I would even wait until the physical CD is released before putting them all on YouTube. That way if there's another unreleased track on the CD release, the downloaders won't think they just torrented the whole album. But still, take it off man.
The album is also on amazon.com and emusic.com and happens to be fantastic. It is real and definitely worth purchasing.
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 25, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
It was released on Itunes last week. I bought all the tracks and uploaded them to Youtube, too. I also sent the Pikes site an email about a physical release, and they told me that it will be released sometime next month.
Thanks, because i heard it in youtube now i will definetly be buying the physical copy ;D
Samples would cover it. By putting it on Youtube you're just enabling people to not have to buy a copy. You can hear samples on itunes (and probably pikes when it's on) so even that wouldn't be necessary. I imagine for huge money making bands, the loss they would make is minimal, but for people like Buckethead, I think ripping his music off would be massively detrimental. I wish people wouldn't do it. I will buy all his music regardless
Peace out
why put this new lp on youtube ? why stealing buckethead ? i dont like itunes very much but i paid for it, and i will pay again for physical cd. i don't have much money, but it's not very expensive (and it gives me a huge pleasure to listen to, and i listen to it again and again).
You should ake it off youtube in good conscience. Website's like BH Pike site cost him to keep it going also.
I'm waiting till it's available on BH's official site.
BH is currently touring this month with that1guy.
I purchased Packs a Wallop! CD from him official site 2 months ago.
Excellent CD!
dude! Balloon Cement is real!!!! I'll wait for the physical copy. No point in buying the itunes mp3's. I can just import the music from the physical CD. and i get to pay less.
Well, just got to reading all these posts, and...well, ya got to me, and I feel kinda guilty about posting them. I really would take them down, but someone else (Polipoli8) also has all of the songs uploaded to Youtube as well. So even if I take mine down, people could still use the Youtube-MP3 converter and download the songs without paying. I'm sorry :'(
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 27, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
Well, just got to reading all these posts, and...well, ya got to me, and I feel kinda guilty about posting them. I really would take them down, but someone else (Polipoli8) also has all of the songs uploaded to Youtube as well. So even if I take mine down, people could still use the Youtube-MP3 converter and download the songs without paying. I'm sorry :'(
Not to pour salt in the wound, but.... With in 7 years that album will be downloaded atleast 2-3000 times for free, maybe more... That's roughly $30,000.00 down the drain that big-b was counting on. The Internet has officially f**ked the music industry(unless you're Justin bieber). However, with out the Internet 85% of us bucket-bots would have never have known of buckets existence. So I dunno what to think. Life is cruel, I do know that for sure. But overall I think bucket is pretty happy and he expects this sort of nonsense to happen. It's apart of the music game these days. But it's up to his TRUE fans to help keep that crap to a minimum. Ya dig ?
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 27, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 27, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
Well, just got to reading all these posts, and...well, ya got to me, and I feel kinda guilty about posting them. I really would take them down, but someone else (Polipoli8) also has all of the songs uploaded to Youtube as well. So even if I take mine down, people could still use the Youtube-MP3 converter and download the songs without paying. I'm sorry :'(
Not to pour salt in the wound, but.... With in 7 years that album will be downloaded atleast 2-3000 times for free, maybe more... That's roughly $30,000.00 down the drain that big-b was counting on. The Internet has officially f**ked the music industry(unless you're Justin bieber). However, with out the Internet 85% of us bucket-bots would have never have known of buckets existence. So I dunno what to think. Life is cruel, I do know that for sure. But overall I think bucket is pretty happy and he expects this sort of nonsense to happen. It's apart of the music game these days. But it's up to his TRUE fans to help keep that crap to a minimum. Ya dig ?
Its up to true fans to enjoy the music. Only that will help bucket. ;D
Quote from: Bucketfel on April 28, 2012, 12:45:54 AM
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 27, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 27, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
Well, just got to reading all these posts, and...well, ya got to me, and I feel kinda guilty about posting them. I really would take them down, but someone else (Polipoli8) also has all of the songs uploaded to Youtube as well. So even if I take mine down, people could still use the Youtube-MP3 converter and download the songs without paying. I'm sorry :'(
Not to pour salt in the wound, but.... With in 7 years that album will be downloaded atleast 2-3000 times for free, maybe more... That's roughly $30,000.00 down the drain that big-b was counting on. The Internet has officially f**ked the music industry(unless you're Justin bieber). However, with out the Internet 85% of us bucket-bots would have never have known of buckets existence. So I dunno what to think. Life is cruel, I do know that for sure. But overall I think bucket is pretty happy and he expects this sort of nonsense to happen. It's apart of the music game these days. But it's up to his TRUE fans to help keep that crap to a minimum. Ya dig ?
Its up to true fans to enjoy the music. Only that will help bucket. ;D
Whaaat? So you're saying stolen or not; as long as they are enjoying it that's what will help bucket? I'm sure he's flattered by that sentiment, but his wallet isint!
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 28, 2012, 05:55:21 AM
Quote from: Bucketfel on April 28, 2012, 12:45:54 AM
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on April 27, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on April 27, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
Well, just got to reading all these posts, and...well, ya got to me, and I feel kinda guilty about posting them. I really would take them down, but someone else (Polipoli8) also has all of the songs uploaded to Youtube as well. So even if I take mine down, people could still use the Youtube-MP3 converter and download the songs without paying. I'm sorry :'(
Not to pour salt in the wound, but.... With in 7 years that album will be downloaded atleast 2-3000 times for free, maybe more... That's roughly $30,000.00 down the drain that big-b was counting on. The Internet has officially f**ked the music industry(unless you're Justin bieber). However, with out the Internet 85% of us bucket-bots would have never have known of buckets existence. So I dunno what to think. Life is cruel, I do know that for sure. But overall I think bucket is pretty happy and he expects this sort of nonsense to happen. It's apart of the music game these days. But it's up to his TRUE fans to help keep that crap to a minimum. Ya dig ?
Its up to true fans to enjoy the music. Only that will help bucket. ;D
Whaaat? So you're saying stolen or not; as long as they are enjoying it that's what will help bucket? I'm sure he's flattered by that sentiment, but his wallet isint!
you dont buy an album as an obligation to the artist. You buy it because you like the music and support the artist for it.
Yeah, I think it's pretty pathetic sign of the times when we've reached a point where we openly talk about how we uploaded Buckethead's albums on the forum of one of his main vendors! Come on people! You saw what happened with the Young Buckethead stuff years back, yet you still don't seem to grasp that the effects of this uploading/downloading are very real for a small time artist like Buckethead.
Bucketfel, you are talking out of your behind, kid. "It's up to true fans to enjoy the music"? What does that even mean? How is it someone's responsibility to like something? It doesn't even make sense. I know you've come under fire for downloading Bucket's music several times in the past, yet it seems you continue to do so and defend it to boot, so I'm sure nothing I say is going to change your mind or make you get it. The least you could do is just stay quiet about it rather than encourage it, especially since you obviously don't have anything of any substance to say.
Droidhunter13, uploading Balloon Cement was wrong, and you should take it down immediately. Yes I realize that other users have uploaded it as well, but you're not helping the situation by uploading it again and making it easier for people to find. Pointing at someone else and saying "well he did it too" doesn't make it alright.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Back on topic, yes Balloon Cement is real and it's a very fun album. Recommend purchasing it highly. :D
If DH13 hadn't posted those songs, somebody else would have. Let's not bring him down too much. He slipped up and he tried to rectify it. As long as people keep buying his material and supporting Buckethead however we can, I'm sure he'll keep us happy.
Quote from: Nubbins on April 28, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Yeah, I think it's pretty pathetic sign of the times when we've reached a point where we openly talk about how we uploaded Buckethead's albums on the forum of one of his main vendors! Come on people! You saw what happened with the Young Buckethead stuff years back, yet you still don't seem to grasp that the effects of this uploading/downloading are very real for a small time artist like Buckethead.
Bucketfel, you are talking out of your behind, kid. "It's up to true fans to enjoy the music"? What does that even mean? How is it someone's responsibility to like something? It doesn't even make sense. I know you've come under fire for downloading Bucket's music several times in the past, yet it seems you continue to do so and defend it to boot, so I'm sure nothing I say is going to change your mind or make you get it. The least you could do is just stay quiet about it rather than encourage it, especially since you obviously don't have anything of any substance to say.
Droidhunter13, uploading Balloon Cement was wrong, and you should take it down immediately. Yes I realize that other users have uploaded it as well, but you're not helping the situation by uploading it again and making it easier for people to find. Pointing at someone else and saying "well he did it too" doesn't make it alright.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Back on topic, yes Balloon Cement is real and it's a very fun album. Recommend purchasing it highly. :D
+1000000
Quote from: Nubbins on April 28, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Bucketfel, you are talking out of your behind, kid. "It's up to true fans to enjoy the music"? What does that even mean? How is it someone's responsibility to like something? It doesn't even make sense. I know you've come under fire for downloading Bucket's music several times in the past, yet it seems you continue to do so and defend it to boot, so I'm sure nothing I say is going to change your mind or make you get it. The least you could do is just stay quiet about it rather than encourage it, especially since you obviously don't have anything of any substance to say.
I wrote a lot and decided to erase it but i do want to say this. Everyone has their own way to discover music, mine involves hearing the product before i buy it.
As long as you pay the artist for the music you enjoy, how do the order of the variables alter the end result?
Look at your record collection and tell me how many of the albums you have you thoroughly enjoy from start to finish and then tell me how many you dont even play and have been gathering dust in your collection over the years.
I can tell you that i play every single album i have in my collection from start to finish and enjoy every minute of it. (except for Spinal Clock which is an LE and i always wanted one and Green Day's American Idiot. Someone gave me that album i have it purely out of sentimental value) ;D
Also, the album is very good i love the intro track and how it combines elements from Empty Space and Underground Chambers. :)
I do have a bone to pick with what you are saying about me because at the same time i encourage people to download i also encourage them to pay which no one seems to highlight. I find it rather sad that even though i pay for Big B's albums like you i still have to shut up about why i pay for them.
Aw come on, I kinda feel bad for Droidhunter13 now. We all barked at him for what he did and he had nothing to do but admit total defeat, yet now we're still barking at him. He learned his lesson and that's all we can really do about it anymore. There's no way to tell everyone in the world this kind of information, so many more will only learn Droidhunter13's mistake by making the mistake to begin with.
Quote from: X on April 30, 2012, 04:30:41 AM
Aw come on, I kinda feel bad for Droidhunter13 now. We all barked at him for what he did and he had nothing to do but admit total defeat, yet now we're still barking at him. He learned his lesson and that's all we can really do about it anymore. There's no way to tell everyone in the world this kind of information, so many more will only learn Droidhunter13's mistake by making the mistake to begin with.
Thanks for the sympathy :) I understand why you all barked at me for it. I never though about people illegally downloading them, I had only uploaded them for those who didnt have Itunes
I have mixed views on uploading songs to youtube. Are there stats that prove it hurts sales? Does it improve sales because people can sample it beforehand? Technically, illegally downloading a song does nothing to an artist. I kind of think that those who download things illegally wouldn't pay for it if paying was the only option. Think about that. If they don't want to pay, they won't pay. So why try? Personally, I buy everything out of respect for the artist, but I have a feeling that youtube creates exposure.
Quote from: DisembodiedLoaf on May 02, 2012, 10:54:24 PM
I have mixed views on uploading songs to youtube. Are there stats that prove it hurts sales? Does it improve sales because people can sample it beforehand? Technically, illegally downloading a song does nothing to an artist. I kind of think that those who download things illegally wouldn't pay for it if paying was the only option. Think about that. If they don't want to pay, they won't pay. So why try? Personally, I buy everything out of respect for the artist, but I have a feeling that youtube creates exposure.
i kinda agree. I always download or stream an album before i buy a cd. sometimes even after i buy coz i cant wait for it to arrive in the mail. dont get me wrong, i'm a collector ( I reckon most bucketbots are too) and i buy heaps of stuff (physical stuff that is)
If i like it I buy it. If i dont like it i probably still buy it but i dont listne to it
Quote from: Bucketfel on April 30, 2012, 03:30:45 AM
I can tell you that i play every single album i have in my collection from start to finish and enjoy every minute of it. (except for Spinal Clock which is an LE and i always wanted one and Green Day's American Idiot. Someone gave me that album i have it purely out of sentimental value) ;D
are you kidding me???? I LOVE GREEN DAY!!!!
well nubbins and tempbucketdog, I shall tell you, that I listened to Balloon Cement in youtube already, but I haven't brought the album yet. In fact, whenever a new CD comes up, I always see if I can her some song in youtube before deciding if it is worth or not to buy. What's the point of spending $10 - $15 on something you might just listen to once? Unless you are an avid collector, the money aint worth it if that is the case. And I never have seen any legit sources stating statistics and facts about youtube negatively hindering Buckethead album sales. Unless you can convince me other wise I'd say you are typing purely out of emotion of your concern for the bucket, which is good, but to be frank, if it wasn't for the people uploading songs or videos on youtube, I doubt the Bucketehad fan base would be as large as it is now. Without Youtube, there will be no robotpie, there will be no other tdrs members, there will be no other tk members.
Quote from: robotpie3000 on May 03, 2012, 07:17:21 AM
well nubbins and tempbucketdog, I shall tell you, that I listened to Balloon Cement in youtube already, but I haven't brought the album yet. In fact, whenever a new CD comes up, I always see if I can her some song in youtube before deciding if it is worth or not to buy. What's the point of spending $10 - $15 on something you might just listen to once? Unless you are an avid collector, the money aint worth it if that is the case. And I never have seen any legit sources stating statistics and facts about youtube negatively hindering Buckethead album sales. Unless you can convince me other wise I'd say you are typing purely out of emotion of your concern for the bucket, which is good, but to be frank, if it wasn't for the people uploading songs or videos on youtube, I doubt the Bucketehad fan base would be as large as it is now. Without Youtube, there will be no robotpie, there will be no other tdrs members, there will be no other tk members.
I agree with you mostly RP3000. I said in my first post my thoughts about the Internet and buckethead. It's a double edged sword. Prolly more beneficial than anything. But still true fans should not be uploading full songs on YouTube and that's the bottom line. Let the idiots that want attention for their YouTube page do that.
I have no more to say about or to bucketfel, I might as well be talking to a brick wall and that's prolly why nubbins hasn't replied to his comment. It's pointless......and aggravating. Especially the part where he said he "encourages downloading". I don't care what the circumstances are, get a job and work like the rest of us do and spend some cash on the man who changed our musical world, he deserves it. So whatever.
Quote from: Tempbucketdog on May 03, 2012, 08:52:21 AM
Quote from: robotpie3000 on May 03, 2012, 07:17:21 AM
well nubbins and tempbucketdog, I shall tell you, that I listened to Balloon Cement in youtube already, but I haven't brought the album yet. In fact, whenever a new CD comes up, I always see if I can her some song in youtube before deciding if it is worth or not to buy. What's the point of spending $10 - $15 on something you might just listen to once? Unless you are an avid collector, the money aint worth it if that is the case. And I never have seen any legit sources stating statistics and facts about youtube negatively hindering Buckethead album sales. Unless you can convince me other wise I'd say you are typing purely out of emotion of your concern for the bucket, which is good, but to be frank, if it wasn't for the people uploading songs or videos on youtube, I doubt the Bucketehad fan base would be as large as it is now. Without Youtube, there will be no robotpie, there will be no other tdrs members, there will be no other tk members.
I agree with you mostly RP3000. I said in my first post my thoughts about the Internet and buckethead. It's a double edged sword. Prolly more beneficial than anything. But still true fans should not be uploading full songs on YouTube and that's the bottom line. Let the idiots that want attention for their YouTube page do that.
I have no more to say about or to bucketfel, I might as well be talking to a brick wall and that's prolly why nubbins hasn't replied to his comment. It's pointless......and aggravating. Especially the part where he said he "encourages downloading". I don't care what the circumstances are, get a job and work like the rest of us do and spend some cash on the man who changed our musical world, he deserves it. So whatever.
I think i wanted to say something in the same line as robot pie but my language skills are very bad. ;D
My computer died and my only access to the internet right now is my nook. It does not play itunes so far as I can tell, so until the physical cd release, youtube is the only way I can hear Cement Balloon. For me, I can't imagine being satisfied with a youtube version of the album and will buy the cd as soon as I can. Of course, I am not even satisfied with digital versions of albums and always want the actual cd.
Good news, Balloon Cement will be available as a CD in less than two weeks (according to a Pikes email sent to someone else) So keep a look out for it on the Pikes website! ;D
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on May 06, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
Good news, Balloon Cement will be available as a CD in less than two weeks (according to a Pikes email sent to someone else) So keep a look out for it on the Pikes website! ;D
Good to know :)
Quote from: DroidHunter13 on May 06, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
Good news, Balloon Cement will be available as a CD in less than two weeks (according to a Pikes email sent to someone else) So keep a look out for it on the Pikes website! ;D
Im counting up the days ;D
Balloon Cement is available on http://www.bucketheadpikes.com/ now :)
(And it seems from the previous Pikes release only Look Up There is still available, luckily I have them all!)
Hello Mulder,
"And it seems from the previous Pikes release only Look Up There is still available, luckily I have them all!" :
that's what i tought,
but, in fact, they seem to be all still available : just click on the link "Continue to Pikes One And Two" on the Pikes page (down-right on the page),
and you can buy all of them.
....Hello to all of you, my friends of Tdrs forum !!! (I say it again : please Buckethead, come to Paris, please please please!!!)
Quote from: poulet333 on May 19, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
Hello Mulder,
"And it seems from the previous Pikes release only Look Up There is still available, luckily I have them all!" :
that's what i tought,
but, in fact, they seem to be all still available : just click on the link "Continue to Pikes One And Two" on the Pikes page (down-right on the page),
and you can buy all of them.
Ha! I totally missed that link :-[
Sorry for the confusion. And I'm glad more people can get these discs in original!
sweet, just ordered a copy for meself