Hey Travis,
I was thinking of doing a True Bonnafide Album with Pro Tools and a Producer but there these new words and things that freak me outlike Month to month Lock out and or Location, but all of that aside I guess I can rent a space here in town and I know a drummer and a Bass Player and much better guitar player (then Me) I could Take on Rythum and or Percussion , All I\'m gonna say is I beleive I can do something like this but I just thought I\'d throw it out there, Also I did in fact call the studio and spoke to Travis Machine and that said " If you have any Questions about the studio..." OK Yes 1 How much does it cost to rent a Travis Dickerson Recording Studio 2 Were in California is Chatsworth ??
Ignore this If you don\'t like Questions but I gotts to Know! And Knowing is half the Battle...
Ego Trip #5 Trip Away
Chris
Chris,
You may have noticed there is little or no information on this site regarding my studio. This site really exists more for information related to the artists I work with. My studio is more of a production facility for me and producer friends that use it rather than strictly a day to day commercial recording studio. Commercial studios generally rent out time on a day rate basis and you can get better rates if you lock out or book chunks of time by the week or month. This rate my or may not include an engineer and almost never includes a producer. Producers are usually hired by contract for a royalty from the sale of the recording, normally an advance is paid up front to insure a minimum payment. It sound like your doing your first independent record. Unless you have thousands of dollars to put into your production ( in which case you should immediately email me for rates) your probably much better off hiring a local studio at an hourly rate. My advise to people who ask about their first independent production is to hire the best studio you can afford for a day or two to do your drum tracks and or basic bed tracks. You should rehearse your songs over and over before you go in till you know them cold. Pick a studio with a house drum kit, one where they know drums and have made many records with their kit. Use the house engineer, someone that knows the room the kit and the equipment. Once you have the basic tracks then you can book a much smaller studio with a few good mic\'s and pre-amps to do your vocals guitars etc. Generally speaking your first recordings should be a simple straight forward production. A producer may be unnecessary. Keep the production simple, concentrate on the song and the vocal, save more complex productions for when you have a bigger budget and more experience, or when you can afford a producer who can guide you through what can quickly become a big muddy mess of a large production. If you still have specific questions about the business aspects of my studio I\'ll be happy to answer them by email.
This is the type of stuff I really like to know. Thanks guys.
;D Right on Muchos Thankyous Sometimes I forget I don\'t make Bugillions of Dollars,But I will ask around and I guess Solo is the Way I should go, its been like that for as long as I can remember one thing I\'d like to do is a Record without playing everything myself. But it could be done Drum Machines are good, Have one thats really cheap (Digitech RP50). But why I would want to do this is the Computer I\'m Writting this ( message ) on has been getting slower and slower and so on and I would like/need something that sounded fresh I\'ve thought of session work but those guys are genuises writting for magazine and I would want to do something along the lines of DCK,Riffs and just plain odd sounds like I\'ve been threating to go acoustic and ( Rambling on ) do a Ukulele Record just to scare some of the kids around here...
Thank You for the GREAT INFO My Questions have Been Answered and I will Kindly creep back into the shadows.
Chris
this may sound like a silly question, but do you have a lot of shit on your computer? burn off a bunch of your stuff you\'re not using every day onto CDs and clean house in there a little... it might be you\'ve already done this, but if not you could be amazed at how much faster the damn things run when they have the room to do it in.
just a thought.
:D
Creeps out of the Shadows and makes some sort of grunts
could be a speech run for it...... RUN I SAY.
The sound amplified makes a like an old scratch sound this is great but Im tired of it when I treat the thing with Ambience and so Forth and so on the sound gets top heavy and even if I invert the sound is still heavy, Back in April of 2003 my system crash real violentlike when I was running everything thru Acid Loops 7? er something and I would never earse and yes gkg I have been cleaning house is so clean in here you could eat off the circut board... er whatever anyway I now record in full room Mono off the Wave player my old man once showed me how to record on this here computer before it was mind and way before I crashed it the Techys at Heron Technolegies gave me four options in price for a hard drive and I chose the cheapest one also being broke at the time did not help current Homemade Kut has a toatle of 17+ songs on it Riffs Vocals and the like...
Travis Thank You once agien the shades are open to new things
GKG Thank You I\'m going to get anouther Hard Drive put in soon ??????????? Maybe....
EVERYONE BE SEATED IT APPEARS HARMLESS.
Chris
Ego Trip #9.0
Bad Spelling agien weres that Webster...
Chris
assuming you have a cd burner (never assume, you make an ass of u and me, yeah i know mother, i know)
if you don\'t then check price of that against getting another HD - could help the machine run better for a while until you can get a bigass HD if you take stuff off - sound and images both take up hunks of space and if you\'re running on a small HD it can lock up looking for places to tuck in all the data you\'re trying to feed it. dunno how much RAM you have on your PC either but if she\'s a few years old she\'s likely not up to doing to many things at once without a little boost. if you suspect she\'s gonna blow soon you should get as much of your data off her onto CDs as you can soon so you don\'t lose that if she gives up for good.
whatever you do, don\'t give up - i wanna hear the slithery scratching thing creep into the light.
I would do a plug for a shameless self produced peice I call AWAKENINGS but I don\'t have software to do it or the Knowlegde to now how to Post somewhere here or elsewhere pluse Travis might get mad and I don\'t want that hanging over me this Board is great Nice helpful people the only other member who\'s Music I\'ve really dug was Chris Moss\'s Grab Bag Alley and Rocket Drop!?!? off Iminthehuzzi sorry Chris if I get that or this Wrong but amazeing stuff....amazeing
AWAKENINGS is a Guitar and Ukulele marriage made in heaven I\'d write out the Tab But alast I\'m just learning how to read Tab much less write the stuff..
Studios around here are unknown to me as I said before I know a Bass player who digs Bill Laswell and a Drummer who stutters some when you talk to him and a Really Great Guitar player whom I have had the chance of recording some Irish ghost like music thats looped into three diffrent Sonnets er something.
Now I Feel somewhat knowledgable in areas concerning the Recording world Thanks Travis, Hexitt, and gkg the thoughts wander on but its much to late to play a song.
I beleive Chatsworth is in SoCal ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Chris
QuoteI\'ve really dug was Chris Moss\'s Grab Bag Alley and Rocket Drop! off Iminthehuzzi sorry Chris if I get that or this Wrong but amazeing stuff....amazeing
THanks alot, just saying this, but... i did them at home on my slow computer using a magix music studios 7, i quite usingmy 8-track...zip discs suck
I did an "dub" if you can call it that album on my computer, all going through the mic imput, tho a zoom 707-2 everythign went through it, then i used the mediocre eq system on magix..and a japanese mastering programe.
like always i\'m my own producer engineer, musican, it kinda works out good, untill you fall out with yourself over a Bb/Eb slash chord with the bass playing in C# becasue youforget what key it\'s in... ;D
when i was at college i had prime usage of there 32 track studio with live room with amps grand pianos ect; pro tools with some fun plug-ins.. i did around 36 songs in that studio...sometimes with a rhodes, shaker and guitar..(i dunno where this is going...)
Thanks for liking my work
..i\'ll do some more soon, im on a diffrent project at the moment..but rollercoaster music will be back sometime at the end of the month..
Moss, i don\'t care what you argue about with yourself - you rock and don\'t you let that alter ego tell you different! ;D
gotta say, somma the best music i ever heard never made it to recording, so if it\'s hot and all you\'ve got\'s a crappy little cassette player hooked into your dash, get it down man.
my own strict set of rules for the best
album in world:
1) refuse to tune guitars, as a collective show of defiance against status quo standard tuning,
2) scream lyrics through a megaphone,
3) hold the recording session in a garage using malfunctioning Peavey Rage amps with the gain cranked to neighbor-complaint levels,
4) add treble,
5) add more treble, then record the resultant din on a microcassette recorder,
6) send the tiny tape to a huge label,
including a note telling penguin suits "go away" if they don\'t like it...
that is the stragey for my newest album, The album will include tongue-in-cheek numbers about premature burial, making love in public, psychological dysfunction, and a house used for communal orgies-- Imagine listening to a twelve-track disc where the first song was about drugs and the other eleven were semi-improvised tunes about twisted scenarios... well will it work? we\'ll have to see.
but im sure havign fun with it so far just 2 songs. going primative: no electric guitars, 1 akoostik and a bass guitar, keyboards and drum machine. and my £2 computer mic. No songs going over 2 minutes... if so it\'ll have to be cut in to 2 parts.
i\'ll keep you posted. :)
Dude Chris Moss Just Cut a Record called International Phantom Riffs its sweetly short with one 20 minute bone jarring jam on it, yeah I hear you playing bass ain\'t all that fun I gave up and just do Guitar Electric/Acoustic and Electric withit all slowed down with ambience and Manderain Vocals really scary stuff, the New stuff is called SKIN DRAG ON HIGHWAY WITH GHOST, SECOND TOP SHARK ENTER BIG BOSS, DANNY\'S BOY, INSIDE BROKEN GLASS and More good riffage and some melody (pretty pretty melody) My Secret weapon tho is a Ukulele Concert and Banjo UKE\'s are nifty keen.
WHEN HE GOT GOING HE WAS SCARY!!!!!!!
Chris :D
scare me some more!
hey - Chris-es-ezz
try a washtub bass - funkyass sounds and a ball to play with. my dad had a standup bass, but he preferred the washtub at parties because it was fun and anyone could f\'ck around and impro with it... in the late 70\'s i had an old fender bass when i played with my girlie band, but it was always more of a gas to play with my old man\'s washtub.
To GKG
My old man (silvermullet) gave me the Banjo Uke , it was so sad :\'( it was broken,dusty,and he used it as a wall ornament, Isaid lemme take it fix it up and play it, my oldmans other insterments (I\'ll Inherit someday far away) are a greek made 6 string guitar? and a Martin 12 String all acoustic, No washtub Bass for me, but killer you were in a girly band good show? what was it called? Church or Garage? three piece or Four? lemme see You played Bass so it must be four er five was there a singer?
Berrage of Questions was brought to you by persona #4
i inherited my dad\'s beautiful trombone - man it\'s just gorgeous - need to learn to play that sucker. start smoking unfiltered at 8 you die at 46, if you smoke 4-5 packs a day.
anywho - # of girls depended on who was around - we were called EOS and we only lasted one year. wonderful laura on guitar, lovely holly on piano & sometimes guitar... crazy gabby on drums when she was around... me on bass. we variously sang, mostly holly and laura although i did the singing during composition i was a prat about singing other than backup... i wrote lyrics - laura did most of the music, holly did some, but most of her stuff was solo. i also played rythym on my legs, ass, arms - whatever... when no drum was around.
our influences were the who, queen, x, patty, janis joplin, iggy pop, bowie in various forms, and various others.
i\'m sure we were crap - but raunchy/etherial schoolgirl crap. it was an all girl catholic boarding school - who was there to play for or please but ourselves?
then one friday i walked out of school and disappeared. s\'truth.
;DDig that! I played in a Band called Hot Dog but all honosty I was more the Out there Andy Warhol type then a Player I did set somethin up called Ra Dic me on bass and my amazing friend on guitar never played coffee houses but I played bass like Geezer Butler in Black Sabbath (he played bass like guitar) to start out I got one of those bass for dummies books and lost intrest becuase my pinky finger is not normal sorta dorf like but guitar I used about 7 and a half fingers (left) thumb pionter middle ring,(right) thumb pointer middle knukle, now I just tradeing secrets of my playing style... Blue 42 Blue 42 Bedpan I\'m In...
Chris
ROTFL!!
;D
velvet underground - viva was an old neighbor of ours - her gabby and my adrian had major pre-teen flirt world going for a while...
back in EOS we were just bored, horny and insane, with instruments to vent on.
hey Laura - you there girl? remember? "i came upon the ghost of you asleep on leeland hill."
;D Wah! VU Rox Been lookin for that new John Cale Album I\'ve only found them Imported for a whoppen $30 also I was lookin for a Seven String Flying V Epiphone made one but I screwed up my courage and wrote them a letter only to crash and burn I think if I do get one it\'s gonna be a Washburn but would like to play in Band first Mad Scientist or straight I\'d perfer the further but...
Questions about Studios update I\'ve yet to find any local studio\'s maybe I\'m blind to them...
No I did post about them here or did I !?
Chris
i was in a funk band playing bass in 2001, our band was called "The Forrest Ghump Explosion with a hint of David Hasstlehoff on ice" we did sutch classics as "McDonalds Drive thru" "Bob Monkhouse Funk" "Smells like pixie Jizm"..
after that it spawned my other (me and caleb and a drum machine) band the Fletch lives project which did a 30 song demo tape (on cassette), a live album after drinking 24 beers eatch(on cassette), a studio EP(cd), and our last album(cd)..
//www.fletchlivesproject.com if you ask the nice guy who does the website (caleb) he might put a load of songs up, Hasstle the man hasstle the man!
we was cult status without playing one live show..
Remember hasstle the man!
Chris :-*
"was?" are you saying Fletch lives no more??
say it ain\'t so! :\'(
:P My new Songs are good but I would never know how to sent someone a ... File er song like that Riffs and Melody and Inverted fades are my best and new thing rereading my last post I must have been chewing on the keyboard.. er somthing have to watch that No Webster Dictonary can help that.
Chris Moss\'s website Im inn the Huze is great, fletch lives doesn\'t work I would be major bummed if I contacted Celeb? and sent the song (inserttitlehere) and the thing did\'nt work or worst people would write in saying what the heckals is that, thats not Chris Moss and Celeb would say naw thats this new thang called the Secret Socioty and people would boo and hiss kinda sorta like reading Rollingstone. then Celeb would call Chris saying \' bugger off \' and Chris would go far away...
I did find an Interview about travis with Photo something dealing with Chickens but what freaked me out is the photo Travis is almost looks like Stephen King from the early/late ninties. Now that I\'ve Made some very Powerful Enemys Lets Talk 7 string guitars Gibson wrote back saying " we do not make that Model anymore " well poop on them.
Anyone have a retort, John Cale , Stephen King, Chris Moss, Rolling Stone, Travis... Anyone
Chris
QuoteChris Moss\'s website Im inn the Huze is great, fletch lives doesn\'t work
[glb]What do you mean it dosnet work - Caleb[/glb]
//www.fletchlivesproject.com
also we havea new board. for anyone. and everyone
http://fletchlives.proboards34.com
Flp arnt over we taking a break. and doing our own things, caleb is loving his webdesign, and im doingmy disembodied stuff and endless music..we did a ninja poilet and hoep to work on that soon, all soo much with soo little time!
but sure pop by and request stuff and make caleb work hard!
catch ya around - Cmoss :-*
[glb]BTW check out my hair[/glb]
(http://www.fletchlivesproject.com/pointlessfolder/chrishair.jpg) El Topo?
(http://www.bucketheadland.com/unmasked/unmasked1.jpg)Chris Moss?
scary!
:D Scary...
Chris
CMOSS - LOVE the hair - i have whole lives like that
FLP site is looking good - er... why is Caleb\'s email link asking us to send him naked pics of you? can\'t he get those hisself when you pass out from exhaustion?
lovin\' it! glad to know flp isn\'t dryin\' up.
Chris - most of us type with fingers, not teeth... does that help? probably. is it as much fun? NAH!
thats just calebs weird sence of humor.. he sits at home making the "chris moss porn" pictures... i dont even want to know whats happning with that........:-/
GKG would you like me to do music for some of your paintings? like soundscape style...ish.. i need to do some more of that, drone colours music, i have not doing it for at least a year! im thinking more of the colours then acual painings of objects. see how it goes?
i\'ll get on to calebs back and make him post up some FLP songs which we like, maybe the last album with art work and all songs for you to download and make your self...
time for me to hit the sack, it\'s been a busy day doing nothing..
:-*
Quoteif I contacted Celeb? and sent the song (inserttitlehere) and the thing did\'nt work or worst people would write in saying what the heckals is that, thats not Chris Moss and Celeb would say naw thats this new thang called the Secret Socioty and people would boo and hiss kinda sorta like reading Rollingstone. then Celeb would call Chris saying \' bugger off \' and Chris would go far away...
sure if you send him the mp3 of your stuff im sure he\'d put it up for you so peopel can hear what your doing, i\'d defiantly make sure there would be that oppiunity for you, so let me know via a e-mail or pm if you have the mp3 or some kinda compressed file format, and send it to caleb we\'ll stick it up for ya.
;)
Quotei was in a funk band playing bass in 2001, our band was called "The Forrest Ghump Explosion with a hint of David Hasstlehoff on ice" we did sutch classics as "McDonalds Drive thru" "Bob Monkhouse Funk" "Smells like pixie Jizm"..
o my god those are funny "smells like pixie Jizm" yur killing me with your song chrismoss heehaw hee haw! :D
Chris Moss I don\'t know have own Mp3 capabuilties take your pick, It\'s plain dang Wavefile formated over 4 very meladic Keyboards and guitar slowed down sped up inverted faded Backwards forwards echo chamber consists of Ambience Stadiam? Resonance Long echo so in other words run of the mill but will give it a go later to day..
Whats the worst that can happen, Enemys.
the real Question to my self here am I ready to unvail my music... Maybe
Chris
ChrisMoss - sure, if you wanna play color the music, i\'m game. for one or two pieces there are actually words that go with... including one that i\'m working on now.
I\'m with MCaper, "Smells like pixie Jizm" is my fav title todate.
Chris - if you wait until you\'re ready you\'ll never be ready - take it from one who knows...
;) Alright ok hear it goes....
Chris
2nd trye :-[ Failer don\'t remember what all I said was about to post but was not logged in... Blah!
To Chris Moss and Celeb email was under high Javascript and was proccessing S L O W E R then growing grass... Doable Blah !
my computer know how sucks... Triple Blah!
I\'m going to hide out in the shadows fer Now...
write to ya after my Birthday..
Chris
CMoss did a lovely little 1min clip for a painting of mine called Creative Flow and I will try to post it this weekend (bouncing among 3 PCs right now)... really love the piece. everyone i\'ve been able to play it for loves it.
that Chris Moss, he\'s sooooooooo cult!
thanks, i had fun..
Caleb has put up some of the first FLP Album "Advice on carpets" in WMA\'s *there amazingly tape quality* and made all the other videos in to WMA for quicker download so go check out it.
//www.fletchlivesproject.com
chris moss
Chris... take it easy man, you\'ll work it out. go gently, and talk to CMoss or Caleb... it\'s totally doable, i\'m sure.
CMoss - that is trippy man! :-*
thanks.
Here are some fact about the first flp album.
1.i was 17, and i sung, playinf L guitar, Bass and drum programming.. caleb did guitar R, bass, keyboards and lyrics
2. the first 4 songs were recorded with headphones instead of a microphone, as we had no microphone
3.the song crockery time joe was an ode to joey santiago from the pixies "rock me joe" work it out! and is 1 of the 2 songs i wrote, i also "wrote el da paso"
4. goran the mincer is ment to me as it is.with caleb taking over vocals .this is a dedicated song about one of our good drummer friends who was in forret ghump explosion. there is a studio version of it on the "FLP EP"
5. The FLP doest know anyone called carol, so carols anthem was to them laydees who we dont know..
6. i used a screaming closet for my big vocals..whcih was my wardrobe....it acted like a dead room and stoped the neightbours complaining
7. we was drunk recording AOC and every album after that we drunk more and more.. so these dregs cant be drunk is a drunken mess of pure genius\'s..
cool - love the froggy
:) today had a long talk with my guitar tech friend Ron Cowden and Yer name came up , He was saying the same thing that there some studio\'s in Dixon and Vacaville but he did\'nt know of any in Davis .
So what I\'m going to probably do is get a ? track recorder and make my sleepy music that way I can free up the computer and all will be well .
But I\'m still at a loss on to which recording system I should get....
Chris
:D don\'t know why I picked it up but new Recording mag had an Artical on how to Mic up a Guitar, Fiddle, Lap er pedal Steel, Acoustic .. Go get one most informative.
Chris
8) I ain\'t Lost anymore I may be getting a Newer Computer soon and I wanna get some software for, the last software was Acid Loops very fun but most vexing in do of no supprt when computer crashed system wide overloade I wanna get two titles, guitar tracks pro this is by cakewalk and absynth synthesis software, I know this ( Computer based ) music is on a sky rocketing rise but I\'m not a bugillionair can\'t afford studio time, can\'t get a bloody 8 track unite majig so I\'m sticking with what I know and if I burn out another computer drive so be it.
Chris
it\'s a plan - and i\'ll be waiting to hear the results!! ;D
:o yeah but Nah ! don\'t know how I tryed sending Celeb and or Chris Moss some of my Music over a mail server but cold tomato\'s nada, thee other day I was playing host to some friends and my Ax slinging Friend Tom played this thing with some of my FX and it caught me sounding like a Laser shooting action, so I reproduced it and started wailing away this to back it I switched everything around with the same FX and Animales sounded from the amp, Now I did want it to be all cute and Purring so I decreases the speed and reversed it and came up with a most diabolical sound ever the whole thing was 16+ mins so alls smiles from here on out.
Chris
sounds fab and i am sure that slowly you\'ll come to grips with the sending/posting aspects of it all.
Yeah I\'ve been getting into some very trippy things lately I was most taken by Jerry Garcia\'s Water effect on View from the Vault 3 and I\'m getting right handed riffy with Iommi\'s style of riffs and I Adore Death Cube K\'s Music but if I could bridge the gap with some fancy but bright George Harrison like Tiny Tim Ukulele Melody and then finish it out with a studdering Acoustic all fazed out.
I would love to get back into bass and get a fretless, mix everything with the computer software from the above post ( somewhere) I\'d have something to be proude of, but I am only a lolly Janitor " and the days run away like wild Horses " Bukowski ,wrote that somewhere...drizzle drizzle
Chris
bright, trippy, ukelele... with that and the other things you\'ve said about instruments and such, i gotta ask if you\'ve checked out One Ring Zero. they are great and a total hoot - finally caught them live at a reading in bizerkely - unusual, fun, really enjoyed it.
hey guys, Chris, Chris, Travis, et al - have any of you ever heard Greg Lake\'s guitar version of Fanfare for the Common Man? SOOO great. i love moog, but this beats the moog version all to hell.
:D Hekk yeah! ELP Brain Salad Surgery is in my collection gotta give it a listen.. what Album?
Bizerkley !?! is that near Oakyland ? I\'m listening to Spocks Beard now! ever herd of them?
Oh! I\'m am getting a Frettless on Monday from Musicains Friend..
NOW I AM THE BAND
guitars ,Keys, Percussion, Toys, Atmoshpheres and sometimes voice.
Chris
Greg Lake\'s "From the Underground, vol 2" - it\'s really great.
i have heard of them - hear they\'re good but i haven\'t actually heard their work. yet.
you are the music!
;D Yes thanks ready to spin like the rest of them Monday my frettless comes.. I did read in Bass Guitar for Dummies that the guy who wrote warned the reader off of getting a frettless but I love the things , I was at Guitar Center and was going to town on a very Chachink Expencvise bass something called a Warrick er Warwick?! and I found it so much easyer but alas was po\'re that ever but yeah Greg Lake uh played with Ringo Starr in a DVD I have somewhere so I now about him..
Chris
LOL!! one man\'s poison... you like fretless, do it man. the moneyfactor comes into play WAY too much in life - but hey, if you gotta have that bass then you do what you gotta do. Lake was great in King Crimson too - they\'re like in a 5th incarnation since he and Fripp founded it but it was terrific in its day. just like the original ELP it went south when moods and egos got in the way. relationships change... oops - this is starting to sound like the Axl/Bucket thread.
anyway, looking forward to hearing what happens once you get that baby in your hands.
8) oh yeah its cool don\'t know much about Bass cords but I just make it up as I go along yeah! King Crimson I once did this collage of diffrent scans of old/new in the court of the crimson king album cover montage never got that printed though but way out there groovein in a cycle like Fripp and Belew\'s? guitar works well in Cirkus the young persons guide to King Crimson, Bucket should do something with Fripp er vicaversa over under sideways down an up!
Chris
with Fripp would be good, but i\'d also love to see Bucket with Lake. and i\'m probably a lone voice here but i would love to see him work with Brian May too - the man has some interesting tonality and dexterity...
;D YES Brian May is AWESOME did you see his on the Queens jubilee wailing away on the room of the Palace, I dig his slow style too really brings out the ringing tones , yeah! it was\'nt Hendrix doing the anthem but damn near close... I would like Bucket and Jeff Beck to work together but then agein Ace Frehley would be cooller then ice cubes oh and throw Mickey Hart and Jonh Paul Jones in to the mix with Travis on Keys.. One big orgy of music but only in dreamland One can only dream, then My dead person set would consist of Jerry Garcia on guitar and Jaco on Bass with Eric Carr on drums! whadd\'ya think of that. Heavy Tomato\'s
Chris
oh man i\'m THERE!!!
hey Travis - if yer readin\' - some really sweet thoughts flowing on folks you, Bucket, Lindy et al would sound soooooo hot with. what a room full of joyful noise that would be, even without the ghosts, but i\'ll bet they\'d turn up too.
??? opps! fergot about Lindy I\'ll have to pick up his CD as well , lame question is Travis on it?
Chris
now you knew the answer to that question before you asked it, didn\'t ya? you need keys and you have travis in your family tree, where the hell else you gonna go? you can\'t ask for better than that. tony brock is on it - and a guy named tim pailing whom i know nothing about but if he\'s good in lindy\'s and travis\' estimation then he must be pretty damn good.
oh, moment of silence - i just got told killer kane died. yes, i cop to an interest in NYDolls in the day.