I have recently been jamming to Ben-Wa\'s "Disciples of Retro-tech" and completely love it. Its strange for me to say that because at heart I\'m a metal head. Not too strange though because Im a big fan of Buckethead\'s efforts with electronica musicians: Devil Dub, El Stew, Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse, Bermuda Triangle, Bolt-on Neck, and Cobra Strike II.
Basically I love Buckethead\'s work with Extrakd, P-Sticks, Ben Wa, and Disc.
Is there anyone else here that feels that way and if so do you know of other albums from these artists or other music that sounds like them.
Your help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks.
Q-Bert! Wave Twisters Brain!! Kevin\'s Noodle Soup, uhm Travis Dickerson!!! Thanatopsis, Gorgone...
You\'ll probably like Method of Defiance, check them out.
i\'m open to any kind of genre or accomplices Buckethead has played with, i found the work with Brain in 2007 "Kevin\'s Noodle House" very interesting, really shines his just plain guitar skills with nice drum beats, kinda has a vibe of him returning to a very experimental sound with some strong effects.
his works with Travis and Brain are completely excellent![/u] really beautiful sounds going on there, fantastic combination! really dig the stuff like, chicken noodles, iconography and dragons of eden for sure.
also all of the El Stew is great, along with his works with Viggo Mortensen, among others, never did check out some of his stuff with Ben Wa though,
hell! it\'s all killer! ;D 8)
Do you have any of the Praxis albums?
I have Metatron from Praxis which is my first Praxis album. And I gotta say, what a great band! ;D
Thanks guys!
I already have all of those albums that Buckethead appears on and love them as well. I guess I was looking for other stuff those guys have done with out Buckethead like Ben Wa or Noforcefield or other bands that sound like them.
I only ask because I am fairly ignorant when it comes to electronica stuff. I am more versed in metal than any other genera of music.
I do have a few Bill Laswell recordings and love them too. Any favorites with out Buckethead... mine would have to be Material - Hallucination Engine.
I also like some turntable stuff... like Mix Master Mike, Eddie Def, and Disc... is there anything that I must have for a collection?
Thanks again guys for the help.
If you\'re looking for pure electronica, I recommend Jean-Michel Jarre. He\'s unrelated to Buckethead, but he has made some phenomenal electronica albums. Check out Oxygene, Oxygene 7-13, Equinoxe, Chronologie, Rendez-Vous, and Les Chants Magnetiques (The Magnetic Fields).
Of all of those, Chronologie is the only one that involves any real turn-table stuff. The turn-table stuff is in the second half of the album, though.
Also, if you\'re looking for some ambient electronica, check out Tangerine Dream\'s Force Majeure, Stratosfear, Phaedra, Tangram, and Rubycon albums. I\'ll quickly explain ambient electronica since you\'re a self-proclaimed "metal head." :P Ambient electronica is a form of electronica that is typically low-key and is almost just background music for relaxing to. It\'s also described as "space music."
I don\'t know if these are the types of music you\'re looking for, but I hope it is. ;)
EDIT: Also check out Tangerine Dream\'s Underwater Sunlight and Exit albums. Those two are great as well.
If you\'re looking for another experimental rock artist, Brian Eno is quite famous for his Another Green World album.
You probably listen to Ministry and Crystal Method. They are pretty well known. I am also a fan of Thrill Kill Kult, you might like them.
I agree with chickentrain that Brian Eno and Tangerine Dream are well worth looking into.
Btw. Are you a fan of R.A.M. and similar acts?
QuoteI agree with chickentrain that Brian Eno and Tangerine Dream are well worth looking into.
Thanks, but in my opinion, Tangerine Dream is somewhat of a disappointment compared to Jean-Michel. The only two TD albums I highly recommend are Force Majeure and Tangram. If you want more TD, maybe try Stratosfear and Phaedra to see how the "classic" TD sounded. The rest of TD\'s music is all average TD, which is typically good, but...I guess not really worth buying if you\'re not really into TD. :P
Jean-Michel\'s Oxygene and Equinoxe are similar to the slow pace of classic TD albums, but I find them far more entertaining to listen to because they eventually reach a climax. Also, Jean-Michel\'s Oxygene 7-13 and Chronologie albums have a great, modern feel to them that is more upbeat and less ambient sounding.
Eh, just my opinion anyway. ;)
By the way, there is one TD album that is fantastic -- if you can find it. It\'s Mars Polaris. The reason I say "if you can find it" is because there are actually 2 versions of this album. One is a mistake pressing that is NOT actively identified by online stores. I know this because I received this mistake pressing instead of the real Mars Polaris. The bad re-press has a combination of tracks from TD\'s Great Wall of China album for half of the CD, and the other half has some actual Mars Polaris tracks. The worst part is, it\'s not just half and half. The tracks are actually intermingled with the real Mars Polaris tracks, and the CD package has the track listing of the actual Mars Polaris pressing. So, it\'s hard to tell the fake version. Mars Polaris\' tracks were made by Edgar Froese (the head guy of TD) and his son. As it turns out, the bad pressing of Mars Polaris removes all the tracks from his son and replaces them with the Great Wall of China tracks. I still have not located the "true" Mars Polaris with Edgar\'s son\'s tracks intact. >:( If you want an example of one of his son\'s tracks, look up Tangerine Dream Outland on YouTube. "Outland" is one of the tracks that does not make it onto the fake version.
Also, if you can find the original CD of Optical Race, that might be worth getting. They recently did a re-recording of it, and it sounds different than it originally did. I cannot locate the original version of this either, save for maybe Amazon. Why do they screw around with classics like that? :-/
I don\'t know if you\'re into Rush at all, but their Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, and Signals albums include a lot of keyboards/synthesizers and are absolutely incredible.
EDIT: Look up the song Kid Gloves or Grand Designs or Mystic Rhythms or Analog Kid on YouTube.
I only have the Force Majeure & Phaedra albums - I like them both. When it comes to electronic, techno & ambient there is a very wide range of artists and styles, it\'s hard to pin down a few.
With ambient music the Boards of Canada are essential for me. Others to check out are Aphex Twin, Higher Intelligence Agency, Mythos and Autechre. There is a cool compilation set called Artificial Intelligence that features alot of great musicians and various sounds (mostly ambient) you should check it out if you can.
With Electronic & techno - Kraftwerk is essential, and like I said earlier Thrill Kill Kult, Crystal Method & Ministry - also Prodigy, Propellerheads, Daft Punk, Revolting Cocks are some other of my favorites. As a little duckling I was into New Order, OMD, Depeche Mode and Joy Division to name a few - still dig them.
Not sure how electronic they are considered but I LOVE Rage Against the Machine, and Audioslave is pretty darn good but if you\'re into metal you already know that. Looks like I might be getting off topic.
Turntablism stuff is something I don\'t listen to enough of. - I like Mix Master Mike from the Beastie Boys and DJ Qbert. They helped form Invisibl Skratch Piklz I think. Also Afrika Bambaataa, Grand Wizard Theodore and of course Grandmaster Flash are essential turntablists. Do you have the DVD Scratch? You should get it/rent it. Another great dvd is The Freshest Kids, A History of the B-Boy mostly about break-dancing but it has some great music.
Beau - You mentioned you like Laswell - have you listened to any of his Dub Chamber albums? Good stuff IMO.
oh well I better stop myself, I\'ve gone on waaaaayyy too long, there\'s just so much great music out there. :P
Yikes, Duckhead! I\'ve only heard of a small fraction of the people you listed. I guess I\'m not really into techno/electronica enough to actually look into more artists. I\'m really more of a rock/metal guy at heart. 8)
Speaking of rock/metal, I\'ve heard of Audioslave and Rage Against the Machine, but I don\'t have any of their stuff. Like I said in the "favorite albums of all time" thread, I\'m not really into modern material. Buckethead is about the only modern group I like, and it\'s because there\'s no vocals. I don\'t really like the sound of the vocals in modern bands.
EDIT: I should also state that I like Buckethead because he\'s the best guitarist I\'ve ever heard, and I\'ve listened to quite a few great guitarists.
EDIT 2: And what I mean by "best" is that his songs appeal to me the most.
Right on guys that was exactly what I was looking for. I now have a map to follow.
Here is a band everyone interested in this thread should hear and that is DUB TRIO... wow are they good. They are a metal dub band. I know that sounds weird but it is awesome!!! I saw them with Isis and they totally blew me away. Only 3 bands have blown me away live: Dub Trio, Mr. Bungle, and just last week Baroness. Buckethead was great but it was exactly what I was expecting. I did see another act that I dont put with live rock shows that blew me away and that was Kodo Drums.
Thanks again guys... Ill let you know once I get a chance to pick some of that stuff up.
R.A.M. ?
beau810
i think u should check out some of the Shin Terai stuff
they change the name of the group every album so its kinda hard to keep up with them kinddaaaaa
QuoteR.A.M. ?
^Rage Against the Machine ;)
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^Rage Against the Machine ;)
Ooooh. I didn\'t know what that was either. :-[
The Shin Terai stuff that I have is really good... What other stuff do they have without Buckethead?
Rage Against the Machine is OK... I like their stuff but not a fan. Same with Audioslave and Soundgarden. I do like Street Sweeper Social Club though.
QuoteThanks guys!
I already have all of those albums that Buckethead appears on and love them as well. I guess I was looking for other stuff those guys have done with out Buckethead like Ben Wa or Noforcefield or other bands that sound like them.
i believe Disciples and Devil Dub are it for Ben Wa - you might enjoy Limbomaniacs - not electronica - but branches from the Ben Wa tree :)
isn\'t RATM the abriviation for Rage Against the Machine?
they are cool "Evil Empire" is their best Audioslave sounds terrible to me so does Soundgarden
Mr. Bungle is one of my fav bands "Disco Volante" is killer for Techno and Metal expirimental
I saw Dub Trio mentioned doesn\'t that have Trevor Dunn? I havent heard them are they good/what of their material would you reccomend
Also since I guess we\'re just naming good music I love the band Nuclear Rabbit but their stuff is tough to get ahold of
Quoteisn\'t RATM the abriviation for Rage Against the Machine?
they are cool "Evil Empire" is their best
yeah - I typo-ed and was too lazy to edit it, my bad.
QuoteAudioslave sounds terrible to me so does Soundgarden
Audioslave\'s self titled album isn\'t bad, and their live performances are better than their albums imo, but they don\'t have the edge that Rage had. I am a big fan of Tom Morello, I really like his band the Nightwatchman which is basically a folk music band. Not only is he a great guitarist but he has an awesome outlook on life and social issues. Never into Soundgarden much myself, Chris Cornell vocals just don\'t compare to Zack\'s but he did OK with Audioslave. Tom is why I use to listen to them. Street Sweeper Social Club is WAY better, glad to see Beau mention them.
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Also since I guess we\'re just naming good music I love the band Nuclear Rabbit but their stuff is tough to get ahold of
I didn\'t mean to derail the thread, it\'s supposed to be about electronic music. I only mentioned Rage because alot of DJ\'s and electronic artists have sampled them. The Crystal Method has remixed alot of Rage stuff (some with the help of Tom).
oh ma ma the crystel Method remixin Bucket oh dream a little dream, dream dream... ::) :P :-/ :o ;D
Yo, have you checked out Science Faxtion? They\'ve only made one album: Living On Another Frequency. I don\'t have it, so I don\'t know how good it is. It\'s got a bunch of Buckethead-related people.
RATM\'s first album was great, but they never really went anywhere with it after that imho. It seems like they ran their course after a couple albums.
I suppose TM is inventive in some ways, and he definitely can play well, but how does his body of work stand up compared to other players of that era ie: Buckethead, Adam Jones, Larry Lalonde, John Bingham/Kendall Jones (Fishbone), Jerry Cantrell, John Frusciante, Jonny Greenwood, Kim Thayil, Dimebag Darrell, Petrucci, Wylde, Trey Anastasio, Trey Spruance, to name a few...
QuoteI have recently been jamming to Ben-Wa\'s "Disciples of Retro-tech" and completely love it. Its strange for me to say that because at heart I\'m a metal head. Not too strange though because Im a big fan of Buckethead\'s efforts with electronica musicians: Devil Dub, El Stew, Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse, Bermuda Triangle, Bolt-on Neck, and Cobra Strike II.
Basically I love Buckethead\'s work with Extrakd, P-Sticks, Ben Wa, and Disc.
Is there anyone else here that feels that way and if so do you know of other albums from these artists or other music that sounds like them.
Your help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks.
Phonocycographdisk Turbulence Chest ;D
I bought a download of the Science Faxtion album "LOAF" its not very good at all and that surprised me cause Bootsy and Buckethead are usually so awsome
It sounds like you and I have very similar tastes in music. I too love Bucketheads work with Extrakd and my favorite albums by Buckethead are Somewhere Over The Salughterhouse and Bermuda Triangle. Like you, Buckethead hsa taken me on a journey to discover work by some of the people he has worked with and Disciple Of Retro-tech was just one of those jems. Materials Hallucination Engine is one of my top 10 favourite albums.
I highly recommend you check out Bullet Proof Space Travelers - Built To Last (Eddie Def, DJ Quest, DJ Cue, DJ Marz & Eddie K) It may be similar in vein to Deciples... and although the Space Travelers were a renowned turntablist crew, it\'s a well produced album without all the in-your-face turntablism wizardy. Built To Last was released on Stray Records like Deciples so it may be hard to track down but it is well worht it.
I also recommend:
Gonvervill - Self Titled (Brain, Extrakd & Eddie Def)
Double E - Audio Men (Extrakd & Eddie Def)
I\'m a huge fan of Eddie Def\'s work. He\'s stated that he used to be a metal head and then got into Hip Hop and although he doesn\'t heavily feature rock samples you can hear it\'s influence on him:
Wax People (Compilation from Eddies Hemp Lords mixtapes)
Wax People II: Open Your Mind (2nd Compilation from Hemp Lords)
Inner Scratch Demons (A seperate complilation from Hemp Lords put together by Mike Patton - probably the best place to start and easiest to find)
Then there are Eddies albums on Stray: Instrumental Pills, Stuff and also Cheap Recordings which have some of the craziest drum loop combinations you\'ll ever hear. Instrumental Pills is my favourite of the 3. HE\'s also released 3 mixtapes as KITTY Radio which can be downloaded for free over at Bulletproofscratch.com
Mix Master Mike has also just released a free download: Napalm Rockets which a Dubstep mixtape which I\'m currently enjoying. Download it from mixmastermike.com under the media downlaods section.
In similar taste to Hallucination Engine - Try some Table Beat Science. I only have Live In San Fran but want to get some mroe. I also just got Dub Trio - Another Sound Is Dying and sounds good so far...
I hope this helps!
QuoteThere is a cool compilation set called Artificial Intelligence that features alot of great musicians and various sounds (mostly ambient) you should check it out if you can.
I looked into this, and I found out that there is also a second Artificial Intelligence compilation that came out two years later by the same label.
You might also like something called Drum and Bass. It\'s an electronica subgenre that is sometimes abbreviated as DnB or D&B, and it\'s similar to what Bermuda Triangle would be like without guitar.
EDIT: It\'s also sometimes called "jungle."
Bermuda Triangle is definitely electronica, but Day of the Robot is more Drum and Bass related with Bill Laswell and Ninj. I hope this helps.
This is a little away from the stuff people have been discussing but secret chiefs 3 (particularly the "1st grand constitution and bylaws" album) would be a band to check out if you like electronic crazyness with some skiddish arrangements and a lot of strings. Not every album has the same general feel so if you haven\'t explored chiefs before, get ready to enjoy some SERIOUS variety.
SC3 and Buckethead are pretty much the grunt of my daily listening :)
All of SC3 is awesome I just think the above mentioned album has some tracks the author of this topic would enjoy.... as well as everyone else ;D
Been looking for and listening to some of the bands mentioned... Thanks Guys!
Here are a few bands to check out as well... I found them in my search.
Noforcefield
Fetish 69
Alien Vampires
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